Arin Archer
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:07:00 -
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I also apologize if this has been answered before.
EVE is a merciless game. Fraud and everything else is allowed.
Regarding the market. I have to question why the following two transactions are as they are.
1. When you buy an item in the market, you can pay more than the lowest bidder but it still sells goods from the lowest seller's stock. CCP just basically takes the extra ISK you paid and no one gets it.
2. When selling. You enter a selling price below the lowest bid. The highest bid gets your items at the cost they bid, but you are still only given whatever you bid for the item.
Why do this? Why screw the player out of ISK? First, It almost seems unethical on CCP's part, basically screwing buyers and sellers out of ISK. This isn't a player swindle, it's a game function controlled by CCP, which costs players ISK usually due to typos on a sale entry when there's perfectly valid goods on the market for sale.
If they're going to allow this, then when I forget the extra zero on my sell/change order, give the sale to that crazy pilot that put in a bid for way below market, not the highest bidder, unless you're going to pay out the ISK to the seller.
It may seem like whining (I'm sure that's the response I'll get) but two fun days of working the markets were wiped out from a single typo which, while still would have been painful selling to highest bidder at 5% loss, wouldn't been nearly as bad as selling something at a 90% below market value and a 100M ISK loss, and that same person still being charged what they bid for the item even though I didn't receive the ISK...what? That seems like CCP is taking ISK from players without an equal transaction minus the broker fees and taxes..
I'm all for fraud and rackets, but this seems more like a functional error due to typo that really doesn't need to be penalized when there are market orders sitting there at higher prices in the same station you're sitting in. If you're going to screw the players out of isk (both buyers and sellers by mysteriously sucking ISK out of the game due to data entry errors where no one but CCP gets the ISK. Feel free to correct me as well if my interpretation of what's happening to the mysteriously disappearing ISK isn't correct.
So I guess my question is, has this been addressed and/or justified? It seems like EVE is ruthless enough without taking additional ISK from pilots when there's a perfectly good market order sitting there that gets filled anyway. Think of the stock market. Sell a share of Apple for .01, you don't get .01, you get ~450.00 because that was the lowest bid and both parties get the correct goods/ISK. Same with higher than lowest big. buy a share of Apple for 1000.00, you get it for $455.00 because that's the lowest ask price. They don't take your 1000.00 and give the seller 450.00 for the share. |
Arin Archer
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:16:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Arin Archer wrote:
Why do this?
Because this part of the market interface is dumb and the NPC brokers are idiots. Add to that, too many e-peen strokers think that dumb things like this make Eve harder and more of an elite game.
Shame on CCP if that's the case. IT doesn't make anything harder, it causes misery for a pilot when the market order is sitting there to be filled. It's CCP screwing a player over, not another player. |